Geeze Tom, you must practice fuzzy math. Get out your calculator and I'll try to explain it to you. With wages and benifits GM figures I cost them $46.00 an hour. For job quoting I must use $60.00 and hour flat fee to produce a part. If it takes me 2 hours to do the part it cost GM $92.00, but to satify their requirement $120.00 goes into the computer. An outside enity will produce this same part in 2 hours, charge GM $120.00, and pay their employee $28.00. So who's the dumb one? We've had blind studies done on us, that at the time we weren't aware of, and proven we are competive with the outside world.