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The screwy laws make it almost impossible to ever throw out the union. It's like trying on a shoe that you can't take off if it does not fit.


No sir, your totally wrong. The same mechanism that brings the union in can be used to remove it. If a majority of workers DO NOT want union representation all the have to do is contact the NLRB. The NLRB will come in and do a decertification vote. If the majority of employees vote to decertify the union, the union no longer represents the employees. It's that simple.

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Contrary to popular opinion, workers at union places do not get paid more than union free people--in like companies, at least not in the private sector. I grant you that the UAW people at GM get paid more than union free people at Wal-mart, but they don't get paid more than union free people at Toyota.


Again your showing your stupidity. Toyota is keeping their employees happy to prevent the union from moving into their plants. Same with other buisnesses, they form committies to settle greivences, use senority for job assignments, vacation schedeling and the likes.

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One good thing about unions is they make it very easy to lay off people. Enrons notwithstanding, most CEOs feel a real responsibility toward their workers, and try to avoid layoffs. If there's a union, to the extent that the workers support it they are basically enemies of the company, so the CEOs feel less compunction.


Dam* your three for three. Our plant manager does everything in his power to keep employees, including the use of the "jobs bank". Most figure they (plant managers) DON'T want to loose their trained employees to another plant knowing that their skills will be needed in the future.

Union/management relationships under normal conditions are rarely hostile. Most unions go out of their way to work with management, after all it's our jobs that are affected. Do you sh*t in your own bed?

Al