LOL, this is really funny. Alot of naysayers.

6.8 SPC = 270-08 - FAR from it - 300-500 fps.

Guys, you REALLY should READ before you post.

Drinking and posting, no sorry, leave that up to others.

Montana Marine, I agree, but also say that you comment on 7mm bullets, although correct is largely not applicable for MOST 7/08 users, as MOST use 140s, some even 120s, as they WORK for most common ranges that most hunters kill and hunt. The bulk of hunters are not LR hunters/snipers. Those that are often chose a 280 or WSM, SAUM, or RM to push those high B.C. 162s faster yet.

Again, you guys are trying to make a horse race out of what I was discussing, a NICHE round - for deer hunters in compact short actioned rifles.

If you don't have any interest, that's fine. That does not represent 95% of the buying public. THOSE guys do not handload. To say it would fail is failed logic, is has not been introduced, so we shall see.

Other rounds w/far inferior ballistics, and others with SUPERIOR ballistics have largely failed, when you look at the plethora of rounds intro'd in the past decade.

If you want to propose YOUR idea as to what WOULD be a commercial success - POST IT.

Everyone wants to give a thumbs down and jump on the bandwagon and say, "I think I will join everone else on here and be a DICK"

Well speak up and tell me what you WANT the industry to make, in the way of a new round that YOU would buy? One that YOU think WOULD sell to the masses.

Come on, waiting......................

Problem is everyone wants to spew [bleep] on someone, and NOT even read their posts.

If you don't have the intellect to follow my thread, don't read it. If you have nothing positive to say, and only want to [bleep] one someone's idea, then fine.

You guys have NOTHING positive to contribute on this forum IMHO.

I am tired of all the DICKHEAD's with attitudes that think they know it all and can speak for the masses of hunters out there who do not reload, do not care for Ballistic Coefficients etc.

Nobody slams John Barsness for talking about his short action 6.5 Creedmoor he enjoys, all with a 26" barrel.

Why is that? Does that Creedmoor REALLY kill better than a similar loaded 270-08 at common ranges?

If you BELIEVE that, then you are all really stupid.

As to all the naysayer's, on the 270-08, not one has said anything bad about the 7-08, yet they are IDENTICAL.

Jeff O - I DID post a DIRECT head to head 'like bullet' ballistic comparison just a few posts UP, yet you like SOOOOO many do not read a thread before posting, and don't blame me for your laziness in not doing so.

Here it is for you Jeff.

#4751846 - Yesterday at 08:34 PM Re: Why the 270-08 Winchester BEATS a 7mm-08 140 Corelokt [Re: MontanaMarine]
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Loc: NW Louisiana Not rigged, not deceiving, but for a reason, as stated.

1) 7/08 BUILT it's reputation using ONE load - a 140 Corelokt - actually the 139 Hornady, often loaded now in 7/08, 280, and 7mag.

2) The 130 gr is THE bullet the 270 Winchester made it's reputation, and the company WINCHESTER loads Noslers, but not Corelokts.

But for interest to satisfy the apples to apples debate.

Accubond 140 in each, 7mm = 1.290 oal, .277 1.31 oal.

7mm-08/140 Accubond .485 B.C./2860mv - original factory spec

Muzzle 2860 2543
100 1.7 2676 2226
200 0.0 2499 1942
300 -7.3 2330 1688
400 -20.9 2168 1461
500 -42.0 2012 1258

Now...270-08/140 Accubond .496 B.C. ~ 2850 fps

Muzzle 2850 2525
100 1.7 2666 2210
200 0.0 2490 1927
300 -7.3 2322 1675
400 -21.1 2160 1450
500 -42.3 2004 1248

I spotted the 7mm 10fps+ of MV so...

Like I said in an earlier post, not enough difference to spit..literally.

So, again, MY gack is not to impress or win a pissing contest, just to show a 270-08 stands on it's own VERY well.

Ummm, Jim62, what were you saying about GOOD 7mm Boolits? Same/Same w/GOOD .277 bullets sir.

So............you guys have a good evening.



I will refrain now from speaking my mind.