Hagar,

Never thought of my posting name in that light! I was thinking more of "buff" as in cape buff (man I love to hunt those beasts), but I used to be able to field gut a medium-sized deer and strap in to a backpack and hike it out. Not anymore though, I never did care much for the taste of the bones and such, so a sharp knife make for a lighter load!

458lott:

As stated in an earlier post, I kind of "inherited" the .308, so I want to work with it to get the most out of it as a long range hunting rig. Truth is, if I can't reliably make 400-500 yards shots with the rifle/scope/cartridge combo, I won't attempt them. But I have control over that. What I can't control is bullet performance at long range and that's why I am soliciting advice from people who have used .308s on deer and elk at extended ranges. Again thanks for all the pratical info and advice.