As I have already stated.......you have managed to get or have waited for the animal to come into the zone inside which the animal would perceive danger ( if it knew you were there ) that takes hunting skill and landcraft.

thats it period.....I have never once said it does not take skill to shot a animal at long range, not once, and it puts food on the table agreed.
Call yourselves hunters if you want (you 'aint) but deep down you know the difference between someone who can put the sneak on a animal and outwit them by fieldcraft and those who unload the benchrest from the truck and shoot.
I think you need to reality check your version and definition of a "hunter" than that held by the vast majority of people let alone shooters et al. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
BTW.....what is your opinion of gutshot animals?

Thor222