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..........how you acomplish this does not change the fact that it is still hunting
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yep just as I said...if you haven't got it by now you probably wont ever. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

A few things to note though about all you loooong range "hunters" I didn't notice many condeming the deliberate gut shooting of a animal....does this sum up your ethos or is "buffhunter" a isolated instance?

Also who actually believes that buffhunter actually did what he said from 30 yards? like he claimed MMmmmm I smell BS
On top off the "I want to take a bear at 500 yards etc etc remark who is kidding who here?
as stated not knocking your shooting ability no sireee....hunting ability oh yes.
putting food on the table is certainly one thing keeping hunger from the door etc, how its done is quite another matter.

Thor222