Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by curdog4570
It ain't OUR towel to throw. It belongs to Trump and Ryan along with 534 others in the Senate and the House, and Hatari is just pointing out that the towel was thrown when the SC upheld Obamacare.

The Repubs can reshuffle the deck while they still have a seat at the table or puff up and bitch about socialism until the deck goes back to the Dems and they go after the next prize...... GUNS.


I never pictured you as a quitter. Is there never a time to make a stand?



What is your stand? What is your solution and where are your votes? It comes down to votes. The Socialists won this round. The Dems know that this is their ticket back to power. The ACA was a poison pill for the GOP. If they don't screw with it, they lose their base. If they do screw with it, they own it and will either lose their base over pre existing and subsidies or lose power for 3 generations when the Dems slam them for "letting millions die without healthcare". Stuff like that is VERY effective in political campaigns. Bill Clinton won twice telling voters in Florida that the GOP was "going to take away SS and Medicare". Remember that? Now the GOP doesn't even talk about reforming those.

Again, what is your fix and where are your votes? Be realistic. If you throw them all out - which isn't realist- guess whose gonna get elected back in these days? Bernie Sanders has made people believe that Healthcare can be gotten "for Free". Obamacare has stretched the ability for people to pay for Health Ins to the snapping point. I pay $10,000 per year PER EMPLOYEE. How are you going to help me out with that? Any higher, and I will dump them to the exchanges and give them a raise to cover part of their premium and be done with it. They will then qualify for subsidies which I will see in the form of increased premiums for my family.

Help me out smart guy. How are you going to fix it? Tell me!


Repeal it.

Last edited by ltppowell; 05/06/17.

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