Absolutely correct. I can not see myself trying to push through the brambles in a rip stop noisy outer layer. Who among us doesn't have a weather/wind proof or fleece quiet walking covering to go over the top of that down filled puffy jacket? Even then mine is in my pack or I would heat up like a portable sauna.

As a mid layer hunting and an outer layer around town lots of us here in the frozen north want a jacket/parka that can do double duty and with a removable hood. For hunting I can't hear very well with a hood on and a hood does not move as well when I turn my head.


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