I've spent way too much time looking at base layers and puffy's.......................

I've also been trying to understand warmth/heat measurements, specifically 'clo' units. I estimated the clo numbers for all these puffy's The RAB Neutrino and Sitka Kelvin Down Hoody have insane clo numbers and should be good for north pole hunting <G>

Puffy Jkts – Down

RAB Neutrino Endurance jkt: 22.4 oz, 8.8 oz (250 gram) 800 down, $375
Sitka Kelvin Down hoodie: 27.2 oz, 8.1 oz down, $272
Kuiu Super Down Pro hooded: 13.4 oz, 5 oz, 850+ goose down, $399
EMS Feather Pack hooded: 15.5 oz, 5 oz 800 down 90/10, $110
Montbell Alpine Light: 12.3 oz, 4.2 oz 800 down, $209
Kuiu Super Down Ultra hooded: 7.9 oz, 2.3 oz 850+ down, $290

Puffy Jkts – Synthetic

Sitka Kelvin jkt: 24.8 oz, 170 gms Primaloft Sport, $269
Browning Mid-Weight: 133 gms (body), 100 gms (arms) Primaloft
ArcTerex Atom AR: 16 oz, 120 gms Coreloft 120, 80 gms Coreloft 80, 60 gms Coreloft 60, $299
First Lite Uncompaghre: 17 oz, 100 gms (body) 60 gms (sleeves/hood), $250
Mountain SuperConductor: 24 oz, 100 gms ThermalQ, $150
Outdoor Research Ascender: 11.7 oz, 95 gms Polartec Alpha, $199
Kuiu Kenai hooded: 13.4 oz, 90 gms (body), 60 gms (arms) Toray 3DeFX, $180
Sitka Kelvin Lite hoody: 16.9 oz, 80 gms Primaloft, $249
Sitka Celsius jkt: 32.8 oz, 80 gms Primaloft Silver, $199
Sitka Fanatic Hoody: 16.8 oz, $189
EMS Impact Hybrid: 80 gms Primaloft Gold, $90
EMS Primapack: 14.8 oz, 80 gms Primaloft Gold, $104
Mountain Hardwear Atherm: 17 oz, 80 gms Polartec Alpha, $285
First Lite Cirrus: 13.5 oz, 60 gms 37.5 Cocano insulation, $200
ArcTerex Atom LT: 12.7 oz, 60 gms Coreloft 60, $259
Outdoor Research Cathode: 13.4 oz, 60 gms Primaloft Gold, $199
Mountain Hardwear Thermostatic: 11.6 oz, 60 gms Thermal Q Elite, $200
ArcTerex Atom SL: 9.2 oz, 40 gms Compact 40, $229

I have several of these, notably the Browning midweight puffy. It is really warm but doesn't have a hood. Also, take a look at the EMS Feather Pack - I bought one on sale a few weeks back. It is the real deal. What I don't know about it is how well it conveys sweat. Most of the hoodies listed have some type of moisture conveyance system.

If the clo thing interests you, here is a table I found. A couple of salient points. First, the best synthetic is Primaloft Gold (unless something newer is out), note it falls in about equal to 600-650 down. Most of the other Primaloft equates to 550 down. Second, I'd not due a down less than 800 over a good Primaloft puffy. The 550 might be lightweight but lacks anything if it gets wet.

Type of Insulation CLO-value (clo/oz/yd2)
550 fill Down 0.7
650 fill Down 1.0
800+ fill Down 1.68
Climashield APEX 0.82
Coreloft by Arctyrex 140 grams/sq m clo = 4.01, noted to be 5% less than Primaloft One
Down-Tek (Water resistant Down) Similar to Down
DriDown: 600-fill down by Sierra Designs Similar to Down
Exceloft by Mont-bell 0.68
Marmot Thermal R Eco 0.8
Polarguard by Invista 0.488
Primaloft Eco Dry: 0.68(0.020 clo/g/m2)
Wet: 0.60 (0.017 clo/g/m2)
Primaloft Eco Footwear Dry: 0.250 m2 C/W/IN (0.100 m2 C/W/CM)
Wet: 0.115 m2 C/W/IN (0.046 m2 C/W/CM)
Primaloft Infinity Dry: 0.57 (0.017 clo/g/m2)
Wet: 0.47 (0.014 clo/g/m2)
Primaloft One Dry: 0.92 (0.027 clo/g/m2)
Wet: 0.90 (0.026 clo/g/m2)
Primaloft Sport Dry: 0.79 (0.023 clo/g/m2)
Wet: 0.72 (0.021 clo/g/m2)
Primaloft Synergy Dry: 0.73 (0.022 clo/g/m2)
Wet: 0.61 (0.018 clo/g/m2)
Primaloft Black 0.65
Primaloft Silver 0.79
Primaloft Gold 0.92
Thermolite Dry: 2.9 CLO/cm
Wet:1.55 CLO/cm
Thinsulate type C, CS and CDS 100 0.419
Thinsulate type C, CS and CDS 150 0.413
Thinsulate type C, CS and CDS 200 0.403
Thinsulate type C, CS and CDS 40 0.538
Thinsulate type C, CS and CDS 70 0.455


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