Originally Posted by David_Walter

Is there an Army issue item like the LPP?



Not really. The ECWS Level 7 is a “high loft” puff jacket, but it’s not really comparable.





Originally Posted by prm
My current layering has either a silk weight base or FL Aerowool, then a 240 Peleton, Arcteryx Atom and then the LPP. It has to be cold for me to use the LPP. It’s good glassing in the teens. The Atom might be my favorite clothing item.



So this is what I’ve talked about in this thread...


So that system is good for glassing in the teens for you. If you wouldn’t mind- what does that mean? Are you sitting completely motionless (I.e. not moving at all, no stomping feet, rubbing arms, etc.). ? If so, for how long? Is that in the sunlight? What are you wearing on your legs?

I ask these things because you have what amounts to a 30-40 degrees sleeping bag as far as loft and insulation, yet without the greater thermal effects of the bag, and your saying you are good to the teens...?