MM879, I tried to warn ya about engaging with this loon... sheesh.
What you are trying to engage with here is a very unhappy and quite possibly psychiatrically ill person, who happens to have an above-average level of intelligence. Such persons abound. In an actual community of real people with real, face-to-face interactions, these people are brought up fairly sharply for their antisocial behavior, and they either learn to behave more politely or they are shunned. In the context of this forum, the individual is able to spew his vitriol all over the place without negative consequence to himself, so there is no hope of ending his foul behavior.
DocRocket had a chance to respond to my reply to him, where I asked him to refute the scientific evidence of the possibility of these illegal shots causing ADE, viral evasion and discredit the fact Virologists, Biology PhD’s, and Scientists around the world are asking for an immediate stop to administering these human experimentation and illegal NON-vaccine shots. Instead of taking the opportunity to confirm these facts, which is easy and help save lives, he chooses to gaslight me with lies and false negatives, like communists are prone to doing when running a PSYOP propaganda campaign.
Let that cold hard fact sink in. I’m trying to save lives, while DocRocket is on the side of the communists, who discredit any truths posted in any medium of media. You will notice everything he accuses me of, he is the one actually doing it. Just remember while you read this sick man’s writing, he is a Medical Doctor, and what he accuses me of in the above, was simply me defending myself from these other trolls posting lies, gaslighting me, and failing to provide any documentation, standard communist debating tactics. He also has zero evidence to support his position, typical communist trait.
The purpose of verbal discourse on a topic such as, oh, say, the current offerings of SARS-CoV2 immunizations, is normally to share information among the participants, and thereby to enlighten everyone to the same degree. If specific points of information are in dispute, the pros and cons of those points and the supporting information is discussed and more often than not these points of contention end up being "let's agree to disagree" until further evidence comes forward from the research community. Eventually, consensus on one or more major points is achieved, and everyone leaves the conversation more informed than they arrived.
Read that above again folks. DocRocket had the opportunity, with his whole post here, to inter into a discussion by answering my original post, but chose to be a cyber stalking troll instead, and paint me as the problem. He is lying, gaslighting and refusing to help save lives here.
This elkslayer91 person is not interested in discussing matters in this manner. His/her purpose is to browbeat, to insult, to attack ad hominem, and to declare himselfherself the "victor" in a contest that exists solely in his/her own mind. Here are some examples of this person's deranged thought processes that I picked up just from this single post:
Read that above again folks. DocRocket had the opportunity, with his whole post here, to inter into a discussion by answering my original post, but chose to be a cyber stalking troll instead, and paint me as the problem. He is lying, gaslighting and refusing to help save lives here.
In the three quotes below, I will insert my original posts he quoted, and show you how much he cut out of it by bolding and underlining the wording he left out. He did this to build a false narrative concerning me with his continual lying, while he chooses to not discuss the topic to save lifes. Just remember this sick fact going forward until the end. No where in this thread has he offered factual scientific proof to help save lives.
DocRocket chopping up the original quote below. The bold/underline part he left out.
That is a sign of extreme mental sickness when you can not debate the facts openly without defaulting to “child playground” tactics he accuses me of further down.
You're clueless.
1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus.
You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement.
2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument.
3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...protein-design-is-a-failure#Post15935516 This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus.
Here we see an example of this person's remarkable thinking. S/he claims a definition of "vaccine" that is uniquely his own (it must prevent infection), and not surprisingly, it is a simplistic definition that no actual immunologist would ever use, but which suits his black-or-white-only thought process.
A quick look at an immunology or virology text book will tell you that a vaccine is a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease. This is a far more broad, yet more specific definition than the silly definition elkslayer insists on.
And here's the point: you can't have an argument with someone who won't follow the rules of logical discourse, the first of which is to accept common definitions of terms.
If s/he won't agree on basic definitions of terms, how can you "prove" anything to him/her? Since s/he is not willing to even start the discussion from an agreed starting point, there is no possibility of "proving" any point to him/her that s/he has not already arrived at.
Ok, keep that whole thought to what he just stated. Six posts further down, I posted a definition for “vaccine”, and bolded
immunity, with a link to it which he completely ignored:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...protein-design-is-a-failure#Post15935583He typed four (4) paragraphs above, and chopped my quote to paint that lie, when I posted a definition and link just a few posts later. That is using gaslighting to lie and cyber stalk a person in their attempt to demean and humiliate them. That is serious mental sickness there people, and he’s a doctor. He also refuses to point out the illegal fraud with the non-vaccine shots that are killing people to help save lives in this thread, while I am trying to educate you people with the truth.
DocRocket chopping up the original quote below. See bold/underline below he left out.
That is a sign of extreme mental sickness when you can not debate the facts openly without defaulting to “child playground” tactics.
You're clueless.
1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus.You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public
into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement.
2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument.
3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact.https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...protein-design-is-a-failure#Post15935516
You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public
Ah, yes... here s/he uses a derogatory term in an attempt to diminish his adversary (which is apparently you and me and others with expertise in the biomedical STEM fields) in order to maintain his/her moral high ground.
Yes, it's grade-school tactics, but hey, s/he thinks it works, so s/he'll keep on doing it.
Oh my, look at the part he chopped off, that completes the sentence which s the “key” part of disclosing the truth;
You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth.
He left out the bolded, as you can see above in the original post, too. Hold on, are you ready for it, the “money shot”, he accuses “me” here of “grade-school tactics”, when it is him using the “grade-school tactics”. That is using reverse psychology in an attempt to discredit someone with outright lies, and remember, he’s a “medical doctor”, and not taking the time in this thread to tell you do not take these unproven shots that are killing people. His tactics are exactly how communists debate using lies, obfuscation, and false naratives, to force their opponent to defend them selves from the lies. These type of individuals are morally bankrupt for attempting to gaslight people with lies for posting truth to save lives. Again, where has he attempted to save a life by exposing the covid-19 fraud in this thread in any post thus far?
DocRocket chopping up the original quote below. See bold/underline above he left out.
That is a sign of extreme mental sickness when you can not debate the facts openly without defaulting to “child playground” tactics.
You're clueless.
1 - This isn't a vaccine, so you're lying there. Even the manufs admit it doesn't keep you from becoming infected with the virus. You clowns in the medical industry keep chirping vaccine to brainwash the public into thinking it is safe, because you are branding it as such, a vaccine. Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement.
2 - this isn't about cancer, so you put out a strawman argument.
3 - They didn't develop squat. They developed a marketing campaign based on fear and lies, and relying on clowns like you to spread it. You're such a big azzhat clown you refuse to acknowledge it is a phase 3 trial, when doctors everywhere have acknowledged this fact. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...protein-design-is-a-failure#Post15935516 Repeat the lie until it becomes truth. That makes you a criminal for pushing a fraudulent statement.
Now s/he is giving us the benefit of his/her legal training and expertise, advising us that we have transgressed the criminal code and are subject to the penalties thereof. The ego of this individual is truly grandiose. I note that s/he accused you (or maybe me, or someone else, I can't remember as I was just skimming) of gaslighting, which is of course a classic accusation of the person who is in fact actively gaslighting others. S/he thinks we are too stupid to see that s/he is doing it himself/herself.
Did you catch that last part pertaining to gaslighting? That is an attempt to deflect his actual guilt of using gaslighting throughout his whole post here, and beat me to the punch and paint me with his guilt. Straight out of SAUL “COMMUNIST” ALINSKY’S book, “Rules for Radicals” He has used communist debating tactics throughout this whole posting.
MM879, I will not attempt to dissuade you further from engaging with this unfortunate person, as you have already done so and you're clearly committed to the task, but please do be aware of the tactics s/he uses and try to counter them as you formulate your responses. Good luck.
Ah, the final attempt here in his closing to paint himself as an authority, who has taken the moral high ground here, while he carefully gaslighted me throughout with lies.
[Standing Ovation] One of the most excellent jobs I have ever seen of a communist demonstrating his refined ability to utilize SAUL “COMMUNIST” ALINSKY tactics.
Well done sir, you Useful Idiot.
Now how about answering my original post requesting you refute my scientific proof these shots are lethal and not safe? You see people, what you don’t know, and ole doc here realizes I’m a real threat to their industry by exposing the whole criminal aspect to the industry by exposing this Covid-19 fraud, and they love their protected cartel they have had going for decades to milk tax payers with through their illegal price fixing and collusion amongst the Insurance, PHARM, hospitals and huge doctor conglomarates.
The above is exactly why I did not spend this past year loading this sight with helpful information to help save lives here. I made one detailed post last year at the beginning, in a thread Roger started and reposted it in DocRockets thread he started, at the beginning, to start to help, and stopped because of the trolling idiots here. Some appreciated the advice:
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-the-science-is-not-settled#Post14727060 1) Public health has been grossly underfunded at the UN and in America for decades, which is squarely the fault of Congress for the past 50 years;
That is from the link above in the OP on page one. Him backing the UN is all I needed to know about him, and him following CDC, WHO, commie Fauci, NIH, advising people to stay home and shelter in place, et al.(All the commie crap) when the OP was posted on 26MAR20. I, at the time, already knew those were the wrong moves, and so did others in the know in this country, but I wasn’t about to get into it on this sight, because I knew it would be a waste of my time.
