Well Swifty, thanks for the links, but I figure if people are interested enough they will cut and paste Cylinder and Slide from my post into any search engine and look it up for themselves. And if they are not interested enough to do that, why bother?

Today information is more available than at any other time in history, but most people are too dam lazy to use it and to tell you the truth, I just don't have any patience with those kinds of people.

Last edited by BobWills; 07/17/16.

Despite what your momma told you, violence does solve problems.