Jorge
"Well as a CWO in the shallow water civilian navy, it doesn't take much to impress you."
As someone without personal military experience (my father retired as an AF bird col) but with much experience with CG activities I think your comment is chickenshit.
My experiences with AF jet jockeys have been "special" and not impressive in any positive way...
art
Try again Ace. I'm no AF "jet jockey" and with all due deference to my USAF brethren,they're a hell of a lot more impressive than whatever the [bleep] you do...jorge