The 180 AB/BT has been my nemesis when it comes to accuracy. My general thought after shooting hundreds is that they are picky about seating depth. I seem to have stumbled on a seating depth where they work (2.77"). Maybe I'll try the 8208 again. Though I'm quite satisfied with the Benchmark, I could likely get 2800 with 8208. Doubt it would matter on a deer or elk, but it sounds better.