Thanks Jack I have an adjustable reamer set to remove anything as for the doughnut. I have not seen the pressure signs with the Norma or Lapua. I have looked at the Starline as well but do not see an issue on the new cases. Some with 42 gr of 8208 grew in length by .030" after a single foreign. I'm feeding them from a magazine and jumping .020" I'm puzzled by the loads posted all over but I'll figure it out. Hopefully whatever I find will help someone else if they run into trouble.