+1.......... It IS a nice cartridge. Except there's too many parrots in this world. Repeating and embellishing stuff they hear despite knowing very little about the subject matter. I don't own a Creed. Don't plan on getting one. But a buddy got one over a year and a half ago and it shoots great. Was with him in Nov. 2018 when he harvested his first deer with it. I reload his ammo for it because I'm retired and he's not and he does stuff for me in return. It responds well to handloading IMHO even though factory ammo is also very nice. But now "Creedmania" is getting to the point that I don't even want one as I'm afraid it will ruin my well informed, knowledgeable, discerning, rifle looney image and I don't wish to look like one of those " Creedtards", ( love that term ) or a "parrot". Besides; there's so many other excellent rounds out there that can do the same thing without projecting the wrong image.
