Originally Posted by PaulBarnard


I am a titanium man! I leave the carbon fiber for my fishing rods.


you have no carbon anywhere on your pp machine?..bars? seat stem?..not even a CF bottle cage?


Ultra-butted 3-2.5 Ti or double-butted 3-2.5 Ti?.. with 6AL-4V bottom bracket maybe?


-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.