Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Without a doubt when indians showed up 20k years ago, they had an effect on the ecosystems, but it's important to remember we had mostly the same ecosystems in between ice ages going back a few million years. Couple million years (at least) before humans appeared in North America we had lots of fires and we had most of the large mammals currently living here existing back then too.


Uh-oh. Ringman's gonna be pissed.



Originally Posted by alpinecrick
I know it goes against the "fire's stereotyping, but most environmentalists are not opposed to hunting.


And conversely, not all hunters are against conserving habitat, clean water, ans clean air.



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