Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by duck911
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by duck911
In the end, it doesn't matter what happened leading up to the knee in the neck, and even the knee in the neck itself may not be the ultimate issue.

But when a suspect is in custody, their walfare, and right to medical care, is 100% the responsibility of the arresting officer.

This has been upheld as an 8th amendment right over, and over, and over. The case law on this is OVERWHELMING.

So if the coroner says the man in custody died of an OD, a heart attack, a stroke, or something not caused by the knee, the cop is still fired and faces a massive civil lawsuit. The second he recognized the man in custody was out, he should have been calling for help, rolling the man over, checking vitals, starting CPR. That is 100% his responsibility to a man in custody. That is covered in the first week of POST training. "In custody 101". And, common sense. And, just being a decent fuggin' human being.

The cop never did. And it was OBVIOUS he knew the man had lost consciousness. His entire demeanor changed and he looked down multiple times and got a bit agitated.

If the coroner says the death was caused by the knee, the cop is guilty of murder.



The autopsy will tell the tale.



It will tell the tale of "fired, civil suites, and possibly manslaughter"..............

or,

"murder"

The cop is 100% fugged.

I remember one instructor tell class, (paraphrased), "if a man dies while in your custody, you better look busy saving his life"



All of the above is yet to be seen and determined. Good lawyers can defray much and they’ll have to for sure. The video is pretty damning.


We will have to agree to disagree. The man in custody ended up in an obvious health crisis - IT DOESN'T MATTER THE REASON!!! The arresting officers made NO MOVE to help him. There is nothing to prove there. The dead man was on the ground and there was ZERO effort to assess his condition, help him, etc.

If the coroner comes back and says the guy died because he was diabetic and went hypoglycemic, and it has *nothing* to do with the restraint, he cops are still done. They didn't help the man in obvious distress (passed out/dead/whatever)


Duck, that sounds all good, but doesn’t show the truth. Take a shooting situations. Cops dump an armed bad guy...The ventilated asswad is cuffed even though he’s been shot.

Cops call for EMS but they’re not applying pressure to the chest wound or doing CPR. They are standing around with a shot up and cuffed bad guy on the ground, waiting on Medical to roll up to work on him....Or, coroner if he’s DRT.

How’s that differ from what you are saying these cops should have done?

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