Thanks im62, dave7mm my be 20 years ago the tactical scope numbers weren't there. We have to remember Leupold is a US company that had to grow on there own I believe with out government hand outs or protected markets that I know of you guys south of the boarder would know better than I Europe I'm not so sure they seem to protect there own my 2 cents.It comes down to if you have a problem with Leu. just don't buy them they will have to change or die like others before them.

Best Alan