Originally Posted by UAE
.....some guys here want to here my 375 is the best or minimum oups sorry not a 375HH or Ruger but THE GREAT THE BEST THE AMAZING THE OPTIMUM minimum Weatherby 375....

Mine is best cause I have a special stellar bullet and it is 10 grains heavier and I have a handload with 0.0001 more powder than yours.

I�m an expert after one (1) brown bear hunt.... good joke... My guide said that the fastest bear down.... bla bla bla.... I live in alaska... bla bla bla...

As Phil said ou can go afer a big grizz or brown with a 270W.... I can give you the phone of a guy. Two years ago he killed a huge boar with a 308W !!! one shot down.... is it the optimum or minimum ? It seems it�s the optimum/minimum for THIS guy....I forgot a smal detail....this guy broke trap clay at 500 yds with his 308W...

Last not the least, hunting is not the same than Guiding... you can go hunting with a 308/270 but if you guide you can�t !!!! that�s all... Between a 308 and a 458.... you can choose what you want.....


I didn�t say any of the silly things you are attacking. It�s a strange, common theme on some of the forums. Grossly exaggerate what someone else is saying and then attack the exaggeration, rather than what was said, and rather than just adding your own experience or opinion and perhaps disagreeing.

I never said that �I�m an expert after one (1) brown bear hunt� or anything similar. But your subsequent post is based on a news article. The other example is the experience of a guy whose phone you have. Nothing wrong with basing you opinion on others� experiences, but it�s ironic that that is what you condescend to me for doing, when that is exactly what you are doing. I also don�t handload or brag about the handloading I don�t do.

I said that a .270 could work well while hunting BB, but if it�s a really important hunt that one can barely afford and may not be able to do again ever or anytime soon, one might want to work hard to get as possible to the optimum.

Originally Posted by 1Deernut
Hunting a Brownie with a 270 loaded with stout bullets, and guiding a hunter for Brownies using a 458 are two different things.


As to the distinction between hunting and guiding, I get it. It is an obvious distinction. But Phil has said in several places that he prefers something bigger than a .270 for hunting, when the person can shoot it well.

Originally Posted by 458Win
True enough.
A competent shooter with a 375 can kill a bear just as quick and just as dead as a competent hunter with a 30-06. And sometimes, maybe, a little bit quicker.
Which is why so many of us choose to hunt with as big a rifle as we think we can shoot well.


Nothing I said was any different. But it�s interesting how so many on here, though certainly not all, get all angry and hostile that someone might have an opinion (a fairly mainstream one that agrees with Phil in this case), and they don�t just disagree, which is what a forum is for, but attack the character of person giving the opinion with anything they can find, no matter how bizarre. Is that just an internet thing? Or do you do that in everyday conversation? Kind of a dysfunctional way to communicate.