[quote=john843]Fireball, that "proves" nothing. An earlier part of a book predicts a certain action or circumstance and later in the book it declares it fullfilled. Without knowing who truly wrote what when, you're just right back to "I have faith and believe in what it says". You truly do seem to be a man of strong belief and conviction and that IS admirable, but as far as it's being "proof" of anything, it's simply not. John [/quote
Ah well, the facts remain. There were many OT prophesies regarding the future Messiah. If the NT gospels and the writings of Paul were correct, it would astounding and incomprehensible that one would conclude that the OT prophecies were not in fact fulfilled in the life and death of Jesus.
Prophecies made by different authors at different times and then all coming to fulfillment with Jesus? Remarkable for sure.
Having said that, I am of the belief that one so-to-speak "chooses what he believes." He can choose to believe in error if that is what his soul leads him to believe or he can believe in truth if that is where the spirit leads.
If one chooses to dismiss the OT prophecies and also dismisses the evidence pointing to fulfillment in Jesus, well, that is one's right I guess and ones choice. Live with it and die with it. So be it.
TF
The problem with those "prophesies" is that they are so vague in detail, time, and actual occurrence that claiming them "fulfilled" is senseless.
Well, let me give you a bit of my story. I was a non-believer and carpooling to and from the mine I worked at and noticed a book on this guys back shelf in the car. It was titled "The Late, Great Planet Earth." I thought is was a science fiction book and asked if I could borrow it. He looked at me in a funny way and said "sure". So, I took it and began to read. I was very surprised about what I read and did have a bible around from my kid days and started to read the book and then check the verses as they were presented in the book. Reading the book and checking the verses started off a 3-4 year investigation that ended up with me concluding that what I was reading in the bible was in fact true. I became a follower of the Lord and this book was a kinda kickoff point.
So, you can conclude that the prophecies were too vague and what not, but others may reach a different conclusion, as did I.
TF
btw, I have since concluded that Had Lindsey is not one of my favorite authors.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
