Originally Posted by 4ager

You still refuse to answer the question directly: who were you accusing?


Anyone can exhibit these traits at any given time, pagans or christians, myself included. We need to rely on the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit to overcome with any consistency. When we are outside the will of God, we look just like anyone. We are all fallen, some saved from it, some not. But still, it's a daily battle we can win. Regardless, we are forgiven.

*In retrospect, that's probably not worded exactly right. Mercy please.

Romans 11:8

As it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”

2 Corinthians 4:3-4

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Ephesians 2:2

2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

Romans 8:7-8

7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Matthew 13:15

For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'

Last edited by Fireball2; 03/03/15.

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