Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you believe in an uncaused cause, you believe in God.

False Dichotomy. There are other possibilities, the universe may be cyclic, a part of a multiverse, etc, etc....it is not known.
We don't know.
We don't know, therefore God, is not an argument.
Would you at least say the super natural is a possibility?
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by antlers
As opposed to “you guys” pointing out that life on earth and all of creation can come from nothing, but then exempting God from that same logic.
We're not saying it came from nothing, we say we don't know yet. You say it was a creator and then don't (can't) provide any evidence. The former position is accurate and honest, the latter is dishonest - asserting something to be true without knowing it to be true.
In your mind is the concept of a creator a possibility?


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The time to consider super natural causes or Creators is when extraordinary evidence leads in that direction.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell