Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by TF49


So, the events of 70 AD…… the end of the age, destruction of the temple with Jesus establishing His kingdom on earth in the hearts of men….His coming in the clouds of judgment, estimates of 1 million Jews killed…. It was the generation that Jesus was talking to that saw all of this.



For your study…… https://preterismmatters.webs.com/matthew24fulfilled.htm

Study and ponder…..


You need to read and consider the descriptions of the promised event. Something, as stated, that all the tribes on earth would see, all men judged, etc.

The 70ad events do not fulfil the description or the prophesy, although Christians of that period did believe they were the end times and expected the described event to happen within their lifetime.

They were disappointed, the prophesy was pushed forward.



Well, ok ... but there a number of bible scholars that would note that the historical events surrounding 70 AD are indeed quite congruent with Matthew 24.

But, eschatology seems to be a complex subject. I myself have not come to satisfactory explanations to many of my questions.


Historical events are one thing, the description of the event - power, glory, for all the tribes on earth to see, judgement of man, and its promised timeframe - within the lifetime of those present, is another.



I don't think you read the info in the link.

Also, you don't understand "poetry... nor allegory ...nor hyperbole...."




I understand allegory, metaphor, poetry, hyperbole, etc.....what you fail to grasp is that Christians did not believe in hypobole or an allegorical or metaphorical interpretation of the return of Jesus in power and glory, but a literal event, which is what they fully expected and awaited.


That depends on the sect of early Christians.
Perhaps the majority of Gnostics believed in a COMPLETELY allegorical and metaphoric Jesus, who only lived amongst the starts, who never visited this earth and was crucified and rose from the dead in one of the constellations of stars.

Last edited by antelope_sniper; 01/18/22.

You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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