I think he is suggesting the 6.5 Creedmore.

A good choice for a newbie for the reasons stated.

The best combination of value and accuracy is the Savage.

This model would be my choice

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/pro...sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=fn

As it would be easy to shoot well and all up is not too heavy for a man to tote.

The scope should follow the KISS plan. A Leupold 6x36 with the BH reticle is easy to use with no knob twiddling.

Shooting at big game at 600 yards is not a good idea. Stick with gongs for long range. Hunting is about getting as close as you can to make a clean kill. If you want to be Chris Kyle, join the military. No on will cry over a gut shot muzzie, our wonderful big game treasures deserve far better.

Having a dead gut shot Elk found by Sierra Club hikers next spring is a blackmark for ALL hunters.

Last edited by 320Keith; 06/03/16.