Yeah, I took the longbow for a walk the other day scouting new areas. I was in a BIG State park, which also joins SGL at other places. The northern end of the park is like a deer desert, but I did find another area in the east that has good sign. I got on a free Topo Map site and checked this area out on the PC. I found a weird place with a high rock outcrop and went to satilite mode. I went there and it had some deer sign, enough to make it huntalbe. I only cut one small track (Fresh snow), which is not good, but there were larger tracks which I am sure were doe. I did see coyote tracks that would have made a German shepard proud. The thing that should bother everybody is: Areas that have barely been hunted the last couple years are not regaining deer. It is starting to bother the PAGC, but they don't want to put it out on the table. Time will tell. Dale, The difference in deer density @ 20 miles is usually tied to gated or ungated dirt roads into the GLs.