Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by jaguartx
HE doesnt give some a chance to save themselve and give others no chance and a death sentence before birth.



No one has any chance to save themselves. If we did, Christ would have died for nothing according to Paul in his letter to the Galatians (chapter 2).

We aren’t “pretty sick” in trespasses and sins we’re DEAD (Eph 2). Try laying the cure for some disease next to a corpse, reassuring it that “the cure for your disease is right there; take it up and be healed!”

Extreme and untold gratitude must arrest the heart of those of us who have been awakened from death to newness of life! It’s an unfathomable miracle. And it’s done for us. Those who are not awakened get justice even as Christ has suffered God’s wrath for our sins. It’s a wonder that God has called any at all; if we were paid our just reward we’d all be doomed.

Amazing grace indeed!!!!!


Im thinking reaching out to God for HIS saving grace could maybe be interpreted as saving ones self, like reaching out and grabbing that root to the tree of life as one is drowning in the river of life.


It’s my understanding that you’re a believer in an inerrant scripture, correct?

If so, wrestle not with your thinking on your idea of predestination but with what ALL the Bible has to say.

I don’t say that at all in the spirit of anger or argumentation but simply as one bible believing brother to another.