Originally Posted by IZH27
R H Clark

antlers would give specific examples of living by the means that you guys agree on.

That you fellas believe what you say is fairly evident since you’ve been saying it over and over for much of this thread. What you ask is that people believe you and your approach but you are very general and vague about the matter. I’m a natural skeptic and am not prone to being emotionally or psychologically manipulated. I’m sure that many here are very similar to me.

If I might, I’ll ask the question if you with Antlers refused to answer. What spiritual growth or knowledge have you gained through your internal (extra Biblical) experience? Please, I’m asking for specific things that you have accomplished not these vague theories on how others are not experiencing all that they can because they don’t believe as you do. If this is real it is reasonable that you can give us a significant list of accomplishments.

When I started thinking along this line of seeking truth, It caused me to examine myself mostly. Possibly it was something about removing the plank from thine own eye before trying to remove a speck from another's,but I started with me. I realized that all those things that I sort of knew I should do,agreed that I should do and thought someday I would do,was really the guidance of the Voice OF Truth or The Holy Spirit,or whatever you want to call it.

I've been working on and improving all my family relationships. I've lost over 160 lbs in 2 years and at 52 I could out perform a lot of guys 20 years younger physically. I train myself both physically and mentally every day to be a better person. I don't know what tomorrow might bring and life is a great adventure again.