Originally Posted by DBT
The bible supports predestination. An omniscient God knowing the end from the beginning, etc....


When I read what Paul writes in Romans 8 where he uses the word translate as predestined I see God as the actor and predestined as a verb. That gives a very different understanding of the concept, an action by God rather than God’s knowledge of something.

Without and before getting into a break down of what Paul means I have to acknowledge that Paul is saying that God, in some way, is actively involved.