Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by bludog
Verse for today:

Humble yourself before the Lord and He will life you up in honor.
James 4:10

bludog


Why? You're destined to hell or heaven already. Noting you can do about it. Eat, drink and do Mary. wink


With all due respect this argument is tired and tangent to the issue. I’ve heard this argument given during conversations, read it numerous times on the internet in such discussions and have been guilty of making the argument myself.

It was when I used it and still remains an argument out of ignorance of the topic at hand. Such arguments demonstrate a lack of study of both sides of the discussion and the respective supporting scriptures and defenses. As such, this and similar arguments represent one “what is wrong” instance in American Evangelicalism, an inability and/or unwillingness to take an honest look at personal views and actually wrestle with scripture.

Been there. Done that. Burned the tshirt and not gonna go back.