It is impossible to have a logical discussion about something that requires faith to believe.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner !
“Faith Strawman”…
A dictionary might define faith as: “The firm belief in something for which there is no proof. Seems to me that that is how goalie sees it. He goes further by stating that it is “impossible to have a logical discussion about something that requires faith to believe.” Get it? He says that one must have faith to believe… but he is giving the context that faith is “firm belief in something for which there is no proof.”
Regarding Christian biblical interpretations, Goalie is incorrect and ......no, there is no “Winner Winner ..” here.
This is an oft used strawman.
Faith comes from…. Repeat .. from God…to the one who seeks….. Faith does not come before belief.
See Ephesians 2:8…”Ephesians 2:8-10. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God….”
Matthew 7:7-8
“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
Keep it simple….An honest man seeks God ….God sees this seeking by the man………God gives him/validates that quest…ie …..God responds and gives him faith. The man’s life with God begins. When that man receives the gift from God, he has his proof, he has real faith in something real… God. The man’s faith becomes firm. The man’s faith is rooted in God Himself.
Hard to understand? Perhaps…. Start with this…. “All men need to remain clearheaded, ponder eternity and be aware that there is true truth: God.”
