mauserand9mm, thanks, however I did not ask for a definition - seems like I learned that a long time ago. (copied one below for you). For clarity, I asked the poster to provide "proof" of his statement about the way to truth. Have you seen that yet? Definition of faith 1a : allegiance to duty or a person : b(1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions 2a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return (2) : complete trust 3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction especially : a system of religious beliefs the Protestant faith on faith: without question took everything he said on faith faith verb faithed; faithing; faiths transitive verb archaic: believe, trust
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
"firm belief in something for which there is no proof" seems a lot like "...a belief held without the support of evidence."So, DBT uses a valid definition of faith, and clarified which one he intended, but somehow you are still arguing this is a valid pathway to truth, or are you arguing for a different definition of faith as a pathway to truth?
I appreciated his post, and I have not argued anything about a definition. If you think I have, please quote my argument. I assume you understand that an ostensible disagreement does not constitute an argument - or, are you looking for one?
CCCC, It's those darn definitions getting in our way again. To be clear, by argument ment:
2.a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong.
I did NOT mean:
1.an exchange of diverging or opposite views, typically a heated or angry one.
Especially the "heated or angry" part. I'll leave the "heated or angry" to Doc. I see no reason you and I cannot maintain our typical collegiate spirit to our discussion.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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