Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Apparently when a person is desperate to not look like a moron he falls back on vitriol and denigration to bolster his dubious self worth.


Then there's no doubt you're desperate enough ta explain why a Catholic would slaughter millions of other Catholics.

Go for it, moron.



Crusades...middle ages...papacy...ring a bell?

I don't feel any need to call you names as you have already shown what you are...easy for any who read your last few posts to discern your metal.


Wasn't no Catholics murderin Catholics by the millions, in any of the bullshit examples you puked out.

You can either admit AH wasn't a Catholic, or you can continue to look like a fool.

Your choice.


4th Crusade wasn't against Muslims....

Despite their oaths and the threat of excommunication, the Crusaders systematically violated the city's holy sanctuaries, destroying or stealing all they could lay hands on; nothing was spared, not even the tombs of the emperors inside the St Apostles church.[12] The civilian population of Constantinople were subject to the Crusaders' ruthless lust for spoils and glory; thousands of them were killed in cold blood.[13] Women, including nuns, were raped by the Crusader army,[14] which also sacked churches, monasteries and convents.[13] The very altars of these churches were smashed and torn to pieces for their gold and marble by the warriors.[12] Although the Venetians engaged in looting too, their actions were far more restrained. Doge Dandolo still appeared to have far more control over his men.[citation needed] Rather than wantonly destroying all around like their comrades, the Venetians stole religious relics and works of art, which they would later take to Venice to adorn their own churches.

It was said that the total amount looted from Constantinople was about 900,000 silver marks.[15] The Venetians received 150,000 silver marks that was their due and the Crusaders received 50,000 silver marks. A further 100,000 silver marks were divided evenly between the Crusaders and Venetians. The remaining 500,000 silver marks were secretly kept back by many Crusader knights.[16][17]

Neither was the Albigensian Crusade

The Crusaders captured the small village of Servian and then headed for Béziers, arriving on July 21, 1209. Under the command of the papal legate, Arnaud Amalric,[61] they started to besiege the city, calling on the Catholics within to come out, and demanding that the Cathars surrender.[62] Neither group did as commanded. The city fell the following day when an abortive sortie was pursued back through the open gates.[63] The entire population was slaughtered and the city burned to the ground. It was reported that Amalric, when asked how to distinguish Cathars from Catholics, responded, "Kill them all! God will know his own." Historian Joseph Strayer doubts that Amalric actually said this, but maintains that the statement captures the "spirit" of the Crusaders, who killed nearly every man, woman, and child in the town.[64]

Amalric and Milo, a fellow legate, in a letter to the Pope, claimed that the Crusaders "put to the sword almost 20,000 people".[65] Strayer says that this estimate is too high, but noted that in his letter "the legate expressed no regret about the massacre, not even a word of condolence for the clergy of the cathedral who were killed in front of their own altar".[66] News of the disaster quickly spread and afterwards many settlements surrendered without a fight.[65]

A lot of Crusades occurred in Europe before the Reformation, making them effectively Catholic vs. Catholic:

There were 5 Crusades against the Hussites, plus a half dozen more against various bohemian sects.Over 200 years there was a dozen or so crusades against the Poles, Slavs, Netherlands (sound familiar) Lithuanians, Estonians, Fins, and pretty much anyone else North and east of modern Germany. In other words, the Catholic Church had an established history of crusading in the invaded by Hitler. Heck there was 10 more crusades just on the Italian peninsula, all prior to the reformation.

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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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