2) The 2 tracts that had feet on them were not privately owned.
3) Eshelman doesn't want flights in to the public owned land either.
The discussion here is of taking private lands (at public expense) to give a very few access through those private lands.
What in the Holy Hell is wrong with flying into the public lands? Except that the hunter is on the hook for the cost of the flight time, rather than foisting the cost onto the taxpayer?
What Eshelman wants is of no consequence!
The subject of the thread is referring to the legal proceedings about corner crossing from one existing tract of public land to another existing tract of public land. No trespassing involved at all so it isn't clear why you would bring up what you described as trespassing pheasant hunters.
Eshelman and a large number of people supporting him having control of property he does not own seem to think what he wants does matter.
Then they would be wrong too.
I bring up the pheasant hunters because just like the corner jumpers they think they have a right to use of what others have spent their blood, sweat, and tears to buy and build.
Wah, wah, fugging wah, he has it and I want to run across it! And I want someone else to pay for it! Fugging Socialists!
You can not cross a piece of property without trespassing upon that property, unless you are in FAA controlled airspace. I do not know about other states. I can only use Idaho as an example. In Idaho trespassing includes the words "to cause a force to cross said property". Specifically, you can not shoot across another property. Jumping over the property would seem to be in the same vein.
Let's put it this way. Can I go buy a drone and fly it around in your back yard six feet off the ground. Maybe I am filming your kids playing in the pool, maybe I am not. Maybe I am taking pictures through your windows, maybe I am not. Point being, according to many here, I am not trespassing as long as the drone does not touch the ground.
Most of us here would blow the drone right out of the sky and think we were quite justified.
Had I been the judge in this case, I would have awarded Eshelman $1 in damages and told the hunters next time they would by subject to all trespass penalties.
As I have said many times, If you want to cross another's property, figure out just what it is worth in $ to do so, and see if the property owner will agree. If not, hire that helicopter.
I can hardly believe what I read. You are comparing a corner crossing to a drone taking pictures of kids at a pool and taking pictures into their bedroom. Packing pictures of little kids and flying drones 20' from a house is so different from corner crossing . Flying a drone and taking pictures is stalking and harassment ... And to call a guy a socialist for corner crossing is just foolish. How bout I say land owners that complain about people corner crossing are stealing public land to use for themselves. I think my last statement is very close to what some land owners are trying to do. They clearly want public land for themselves and that right there is socialism.. The entitled think they get more than they deserve. Sounds Bernie Sanders mentality to me. SOME land owners have an entitlement thought mentality. One poster here did say some hunters flew on to public land ... It is legal ,, but the land owners had a fit, thinking it was also their airspace and it isn't, especially if they are not low from the ground. Mark my words, there will be people shot over this issue.
Because without hyperbole, strawmen, and a real good imagination it’s impossible to argue against corner crossing on otherwise landlocked sections of public land.
The what ifs, and red herrings is all there is. Unless a guy wants to argue Tejas style where it’s all private and you pay a trespass fee to take your kid to catch bluegills or shoot a gopher.
