I agree with you, I don't take any of the long range stuff lightly. I use moa and a pda if I am shooting targets or coyotes and a cut turret with a ton of background if I feel it will serve me better. The point that I tried to make a few pages back was the effect of a guys mental game on all of this. You can throw all the data and practice at it you want, but if you "melt down" at game time it won't matter. People miss at all ranges, but the ability to get it together after a whiff sometimes makes the difference.