The dishonest one was not the seller, but the buyer. I can put the whole pile of PM's back and forth, plus e-mails in this thread but preffered to not make a public spectacle of this mess.
I have a C&R FFL. I can ship a modern handgun anywhere, like any of you all can, but the dealer at the other end cannot ship a modern handgun back to a C&R only FFL holder. Simple as that.
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I Wish to purchase a Ruger 22 Charger Pistol LNIB. Will pay cash, certified check, Money Order, credit card and Paypal (might even sweeten the deal with momma and the dog). PM me please with details. Thank you for looking."
A cousin of mine had one, so I allowed him to use it as trade bait for something I had, AFTER sending photos of the gun to the poster who agreed to purchase this gun. I did not and do not want a Ruger Charger pistol. Photos shoowed a scope and a bipod,, this poster said he wanted the pistol only so that is what I sent.
When the handgun arrived, I was told that there were pieces of the FFL missing somehow. I had taped the FFL in an envelope I believe, to the outside of the box as I had forgotten to put the FFL inside. Apparently some of the numbers and expiration date were missing or illegible. The VERY MOMENT I recieved notice of this, I e-mailed whole and complete copies of my C&R FFL to the poster and to his gun shop.
I was told then that I had not put in a magazine. I was SURE that I had, but no problem there either as I would ship one out immmediately.
Missouri Ed then proclaimed BEFORE I had a chance to rectify a couple of small problems that he was going to send the gun (that i did not want) back for a refund (that I do not HAVE!) spent the money, honey. On a set of used tires for my wifes car. The only reason I was selling off some good guns that I would rather have kept. After all, there was no free look offer, I had sent photos, the deal was DONE as far as I was concerned.
When I told Mr. Ed here that I would fix the problems quickly, he still declined and told me
"THE GUN IS ALREADY ON ITS WAY BACK TO YOU"
THAT, MY freinds, was a bald faced LIE. I know this because his FFL dealer called me on Monday and asked if I had a different FFL to send a modern handgun to because he could not ship this to a C&R... This, AFTER Mr. Ed here told me the gun was ALREADY EN ROUTE to me.
At this date, I have purchased and packaged up to be sent a new Ruger Magazine to the FFL, he now has a complete copy of my C&R FFL. I will send him via e-mail or fax or snail mail a copy of my drivers license and more if he wants it, but he has stated that Ed can pick up his pistol any time. The dealer ALSO stated that he thought Ed here was doing me dirty by declining a gun he had ASKED to buy, and which I had sent, and when I was MORE than willing and quick to rectify any problems to make Ed happy even to the point of buying a brand new Ruger magazine which is all boxed up and ready to go out today.
I can post up every one of the PM's and e-mails between Ed and me, and the Dealer and me, happily. But this is the short version.
I had NOT planned to bring this up in the open forum, I simply told Ed that he could pick up his gun, but that I was blockinig his e-mail address and putting his handle here on IGNORE as I did not wish to further talk with a proven liar who wanted to renig on a deal done. I DID say that I would stay in touch with his dealer in case something more is needed to accomplish the transfer.
the gun is NOT scratched up, the photos were accurate, and I don't know how Ed could even KNOW of the condition of the gun as the last I heard he had not picked it up. Maybe he did get it this morning, but when I sent it it looked like the photos as in like new.
I hope I don't have to post all of the crap Ed put into e-mails and messages here. It will not look good for him, and I was willing to let it go, but certainly ignoring him moving forward because of his dirty dealing and proven lying...
Ed, your like new gun is YOURS, and the magazine (which I SWORE I put in the box, but may have accidentally missed it) is in a box and addressed to be shipped out today.
