Originally Posted by JoeBob
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So Bleeding Kansas et al. before the war was really about the economy, people caring naught for actual principles at all?


John Brown was a dupe, a chump, and a useful idiot just like so many people are today with their pet causes.


You might have point, if'n John Brown and his boys were the whole deal.


"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744