hbb, Bristoe, et al,

You can only have an honest intellectual discourse with an individual that is intellectually honest. Birdwatcher has proven himself otherwise.

Birdwatcher,

None of the Wikipedia links cite the Virginia Historical Society, and if you want to start quoting them as a source, it'd be best if you tried it when folks opposed to your BS don't have immediate family relatives that work there. However, whilst search (or citing) Richmond VA museums, perhaps you should take a look at the one in town there devoted to War of Northern Aggression history. Just a suggestion.

Oh, and since you haven't the intellectual fortitude to answer hillbillybear's question about Constitutional authority, I'll do it for you. Lincoln had not Constitutional authority to invade any state, nor press any state citizens into service, nor conscript new immigrants into service, not take/free lawfully owned private property without compensation, nor turn the guns of Fort McHenry against a peaceful civilian populace, nor arrest and replace the governance of Maryland, nor blockade Southern seaports in order to enforce any tariff.

My dear friend EvilTwin thinks highly of you. It appears even he can be mistaken as to the worth of an individual.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.