Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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You haven't the intellectual honesty to admit that the ONLY sources you believe are the ones that support your erroneous position that the entire war was only all about slavery, especially in the face of facts to the contrary.


Nope, just going by what folks actually said at the time. A near-universal theme among folks from the South here is to MINIMIZE the role of slavery when in reality our entire friggin' nation had been wrestling with the issue ever since '76.


Actually, the near-universal theme is to contradict the unadulterated "it was all only about slavery" lies that you and others gleefully espouse. Therein lies the rub.

Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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The hypocrisy of your position that a people ought to be able to break away from a government that no longer represents them and seek independence, whilst simultaneously supporting the unconstitutional actions of Lincoln to subjugate people and states that were seeking that freedom, is staggering.


Ya, buts the contradiction is acknowledged and openly stated, and said contradictions were certainly also obvious to those actually fighting and dying for the Union '61 to '65.

A LOT of good and intelligent men thought the Union was worth dying to preserve, including more'n a few Southerners.


A LOT of good intelligent men thought that freedom and self-determination, as well as defense of their homes and states against armed invasion, were worth fighting for as well; including more'n a few Yankees. You continually leave out that part because it doesn't support the propaganda lie you're pushing.

Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
JobBob would have us believe they were mostly dupes, useful idiots.

Birdwatcher




He has valid points that you refuse to consider or accept. Telling, actually.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.