Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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But frankly, for anyone to express, multiple times, that they would have fought for the union to eradicate slavery, without acknowledging that not all the people being killed believed in the institution, nor that their respective reasons for fighting were anything other than a states rights issue, is very telling.


"Twisting, miscasting, spinning".... How did you put it?

IIRC I think it was the excellent and worthy Irishman and Confederate General Patrick Cleburne who's family were actually abolistionists before the war, and I've already stated that General Lee hisself had freed his slaves.

As for the rest, I'm just going by what the Southerners involved at the time actually wrote.

Where have I deviated from that?


Birdwatcher



By refusing to acknowledge the rationale given, as written, by various states as to why they seceded; by failing to acknowledge the same as to why many of the leading generals joined the South; by failing to even look for words written by actual Southerners as to why they fought.

You look for only that which supports you position and refuse any other evidence; rather intellectually dishonest.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.