I reiterate the point about intellectual honesty and having an honest intellectual conversation with someone who lacks said trait.
...and I still await an example of the same
Dude, its all still here, what are you referring to?
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744