Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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A LOT of good intelligent men thought that freedom and self-determination, as well as defense of their homes and states against armed invasion, were worth fighting for as well; including more'n a few Yankees. You continually leave out that part because it doesn't support the propaganda lie you're pushing.


I woulda thought the virtue of the men fighting and dying on both sides was self-evident, and have oft referred to the same in previous threads.

What I THINK is that it is a characteristic of Evil to pervert all it touches, slavery being a prime example. Pro-slavery folks in general, and the Southern leadership in particular, had to do moral handsprings in order to sleep at night.

The real tragedy is IMHO is that all those good and brave men in the South were fighting to defend a Constitution that was built upon African slavery.

Their vision of America was, at the time, obviously quite different than ours.

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He has valid points that you refuse to consider or accept. Telling, actually.


Not at all, questioning is not "refusing to accept", thus far he has defended his interpretations quite well.

Birdwatcher


So, you question the morality of any Southern leaders, but have no problems with Grant owning slaves or Sherman wanting to commit genocide against a civilian population.

Quite telling.

Marx, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot would be proud. Hell, given that Marx was a BFF and pen pal of your messianic Lincoln, perhaps that is truly appropriate.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.