Gene, I think that you summed it up nicely. I know that you like Mike, and so do I, but I was raised in Arkansas and the schools were still teaching things a little different when I attended. Plus a lot of the old timers remembered a lot of stuff that they saw and was told by people that lived it. Story about a man that lived close to where I now live, and that is buried in the same cemetery that I will be buried, about a former Yank Soldier that stopped by his place years after the war. He would not give the former soldier a drink of water, but would water his horse. Told the former soldier to get his water out of the ditch. Very few slaves around where I live, but quit a few on the other side of White River where the soil was better for cotton. Of course my ancestors moved here from Mississippi after the war. miles