Birdwatcher has stated and agreed with the premise that a free people have the right to break away from a gov't that no longer represents them. That is a fundamental human right.
Yep.
It has been established that the Southern states did exactly that, and for exactly that reason.
In their OWN WORDS, the major freedom they were concerned about was the freedom to keep one third of their population in chattel slavery and the freedom to expand that system.
It has even further been established that Lincoln had no authority whatsoever under the law or the Constitution to take any actions that he did; including arresting and detaining US citizens in MD and elsewhere, detaining and replacing the MD legislature and governor, turning cannons on the city of Baltimore, and/or invading the now free and independent Southern states or any states at all.
And half a million Americans were willing to die to preserve the Union, even if it meant doing those things. I would have been among that number.
Thus, when one distills out the remainder of Birdwatcher's position, the fundamental rights to freedom and self-determination are crushed under the boot heel of tyranny with no more justification than "it's for the children"....
Yet no outrage at all that a small proportion of the Southern population were able to pervert so much, so that all of those Southern soldiers wre dying for a document as foul as the Southern Constitution?
Ya know, there are all sorts of "rich people", heck your average American IS rich compared to most of the World's population.
More power to 'em, rich people provide jobs and can accomplish much good.
More irony here... Implicit in your statement is an assumption that the wealthy plantation society of the Antebellum South typified "rich people" everywhere.
An absurdity of course.
[Under such a "moral Crusade", Birdwatcher would unabashedly endorse and support the subjugation of American citizens etc etc etc
Few "support" these things, not even a Lincoln, the old status quo was restored as soon as possible. Another irony being had not a certain degenerate Southerner assassinated Lincoln, Reconstruction would have been less onerous.
As for the rest, what WE would do today?
Two things would have to happen......
About twenty states would have to initiate a system where one third of their population was held in absolute degradation supported by a specifically rewritten "Constitution" .
and....
They would all have to decide to leave the United States.
Birdwatcher
