Do you dip [bleep] think that the majority of the shooting and hunting public sits in their basements handloading and obsessing over the twist rates in their rifle? If that's your hobby fine, but you are in a small minority.

As for the super grade, haven't scoped it and shot it yet. If it will put them into 1-1.5 inches at 100 yards, it will be all i ever need to hunt with. I will find one load that shoots good and leave it alone. Who cares about anything other than that? We aren't talking about benchrest or match rifles here. There are plenty of those to be had elsewhere if that is what you are after.

Steelhead, just wondering what you retired from? Underwater basketweaving?