Ok, I'll concede that the Turnkey wonder wasn't my best option for examples.... grin However, I believe I've said this many times already in this thread, that they have way more barrels twisted "right" then wrong. Of course that still leaves the nagging question of whether or not these rifles have harmonious (perfect) COAL/throat relationships for those who shoot one bullet per rifle (ie the longest). Man.....tuff crowd....... grin