Originally Posted by RDFinn
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
You want to settle for a compromise?


I don't even know why we are so concerned with LAW. Stick nailed it in his first post.

With all the special runs, no reason to compromise.


Stick is usually right on many topics related to shooting and he is a proponent of buying rifles built around the use of a specific bullet. But again, that market (and thinking while good) represents an even smaller market segment. Remember too, that Stick is a head shot guy, at least from the pics I've seen here of his victims, so unless that is your plan as well, it might not be the road you'd want to build a rifle around. Any animal shot in the noggin is going to drop like a rock, so he picks bullets based on high BC and long range shots for than reason mostly. He has to anchor [bleep] pronto as tracking animals that travel into bear country isn't a warm and fuzzy feeling, along with if they travel some distance into cover, recovering them is a bitch do to the density of the bush. I know that his good pal, John Burns, also buys rifles with the same mindset as he is selling a "turnkey" rig for his customers, so his setup is more successful to build rifles that are going to use one bullet, at a certain velocity, along with a scope with a custom load specific system. For Burns rifles too, it makes complete sense.


In fairness...I haven't shot anything in the head,since Sunday afternoon,mainly because yesterday was a travel day to work. I caught an unsuspecting Otter swimming at what I figured to be 680yds(triangulated from LRF readings in the neighborhood and extrapolated in kind) and when I dialed 680yd dope into a MK4 M1 3.5-10x(which I'd left on 6X in my haste to drop into an MPA/Ruck field rest),it arranged a 6-284 1-8" Brux spout flingin' 105 Hornie HPBT's kissin' from it's DBM,to crush a cranium. Anything but "surprising",was the outcome.

I got caught flat footed the day prior in similar opportunity,though UKD and I had the wrong tool for the job in my mitts,but tried to make do. 75 Hornie HPBT's at 2725fps from an 18" 1-8" Middie,is hardly a laser beam and I reckoned the distance to be 425yds,as a laser wouldn't bounce off his head in the snow/fog/water and it were closer to 450yds. Made mention that the following day would be a LFB Day,in order to fend another UKD situation,with more BC and more velocity...as well as give the not so OEM Pappy Zero Stop some more Play Time.

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Now steaks tend to get shot in the ear,if only because the ear is the furthest kill button away from the steaks and flipping the CNS switch reliably seals the deal. Flipside being,Critters that ain't sought expressly for their Steaktitude,tend to get shoulders broken with boring regularity. Though it is a nice arrangement that Splendid Beasties,come with Splendid Steaks.

If only to stay the course.

80yds. 105Hornie HPBT.

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505yds. 105 Hornie HPBT.

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Just sayin'.

Now this twist schit is always a fhuqking riot,because droves of CLUELESS Window Licking Idiots come crawling outta the woodwork,to extoll their amazing fhuqking STUPIDITY. Funniest part is,all those belly aching Clueless Kchunts are "over twisted" with all the schit they shoot and they don't even fhuqking know it. EPIC fhuqking humor! Their 308's,'06's,yada,yada,yada all boast copious reserve twist rate,given the length of projectiles these Stupid Fhuqkers launch. Bullets matter more than headstamps and none can drive that point home better obliviously,than a herd of Whining Kchunts.

Ms. Reed is very obviously a Clueless Kchunt and still as of yet,the cat has her tongue and the couch her kchunt,because she's gone wayyyyyyyyyyy outta her way to refrain any/all things germane. Even she KNOWS how far she is in over her head and that's some poignant perspective. Laffin'!

It is hardly a daunting feat to twist and throat in conjunction with COAL. That being said,all these WhizBang Dumb Fhuqks and their latest Show Ponies,try double-extry hard to make sure no dots are connected. Now that is a fascinating Business Model. Wow!

The Whining Kchunt Faction has long been gunning twist rates of copious reserve,less an inkling in that regard and now are convinced that it is time to make a "stand",so as to preclude that which they've been doing their entire Clueless fhuqking "Life". FUNNY schit!!!

The upside to reserve RPM,is that there is no downside. Read that again. Now one more time. I shoot a goodly smattering of twist rates in more than a few diameters and in none of them,do I have ammo in a lazy twist,that I cannot gun in a faster one,due to "pressure" curves associated with RPM. 'Course you cain't buy Superformance ammo in a 10",11" and 12" "only" versions either,but Drooling Dumbfhuqks will Hissy Fit inherent advantages. Again...FUNNY schit!

Do I expressly label 1-14" 223AI fodder,so as to keep it out of my 12,10,9,8,7.7 and 7" twist spouts? Nope. Will there be a catastrophic failure,if I shoot 1-7"/75gr fodder through a 14"? Nope...only keyholes.

Will a 1-8" 243Win in say a 2.815" box throated in conjunction,steal Joe Average's Ping Pong Ball BC launching Thunder? Ummmmm...nope,the STUPID fhuqker would still be devoid ANY/ALL inkling,just as he has been from day one. Now will the astute,leap upon those glaring advantages and reap the rewards? All day and every day. Can poor poor STUPID fhuqking Joe Average,savvy that the only way boolits get better,is to get longer?!? Nope,that'd be wayyyyyyyyyyy too fhuqking easy. Laffin'!

Were I not waiting to board a jet,I might would mebbe delve into the "startling" facts associated with modest case capacity chamberings,soundly flogging on greater capacity and longer action length chamberings,due solely boolit selection. Such things really get Joe Average into a Hissy Fit and that too,is of course funnier than fhuqk! The greater the BC,the greater a boolit clings to it's starting velocity,the harder it hits(due the retention of that speed) and the better it slips atmospheric conditions. Really pisses Clueless Kchunts off too,when the projectiles that arrange same,are less expensive too. It's another real pisser for 'em,that one can reduce recoil,while bolstering flight characteristics and terminal affects. I can hear itty-bitty feet stomping in unison now. Laffin'!

Tough to trump the humor of something that handles like a Rail Road Tie and launches Ping Pong Balls,as the culmination of deep "thought",extensive "experience" and copious "R&D"...then Stupid Fhuqkers wearing a straight face,stand in line to laude the melding.

Just ohhhhhhhhhh sooooooooooooooooo fhuqking WOW.

+P!

Laffin'!

Hint.