Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
Originally Posted by DBT
The facts are simple, Christianity as with any other religion, rests on faith. Religion is a matter of faith, not facts, science or philosophical inquiry...

belief in science isnt an act of faith? seriously?


Yes, seriously. Faith and science are opposites. Science requires actual observations, questioning, testing and verifying results, embracing falsification.....faith on the other hand involves believing what is written in old scrolls by people who had a far poorer understanding of the world and its place in the Cosmos.

No, nothing like the same. Not even close.

so when you reject a notion based on an other than natural basis and accept a notion based on science , havent you exchanged your belief?

That's not how science works. It's not how logic works. You are imposing your own terms and conditions.

science and logic dont impose their own conditions ?

science uses random comparison's rather than controlled conditions to arrive at a hypothesis ?

Our creator , created the heavens and the earth versus The Grande Bang ,your beliefs incorporate one or the other as fact , no?

Seen under the same light secularism is as much a religion as Christianity isnt it.?


Science gathers information, experiments and tests its results.

That is basically the scientific method.

Philosophy examines claims and propositions according to their own terms and references in order to understand and determine their validity, that there are no contradictions, inconsistencies, that the premises relate to the real world and not fiction.

Religion tells us to believe.

Believe because it is so written in the bible, the Qur'an, the Gita....in religion we are told that Mohammed is a prophet of God, Brahman is the creative principle of the universe, Jesus is the son of God.....yet philosophically these claims are not consistent, they contradict each other, where logic tells us that all of these things cannot be true.

That is the difference between philosophy and religion, science and faith.