"If 2 decent butane lighter go south at the same time, your luck already ran out before you stepped foot into the woods."

I Kinda hafta agree on that as well. Although, I still keep a small waterproof butane Bullet-Lighter. Like a small silver pill on a key chain. 7 bucks on ebay.Peace of mind.Lets face it..the conditions that will destroy one lighter, will also destroy the other.. Thats why paranoia is so useful...I might be paranoid, But Im always ready..:)